Reddit's User Agreement can bind Anthropic, a judge rules, and the meter is running
A San Francisco judge rejected Anthropic's "browsewrap" defense and let three of Reddit's five claims proceed, opening the question of what Claude's training corpus is worth to the lab that allegedly took it without paying.
Vincent Jiang · 3 min read
Three claims survive, and they are the expensive ones
Judge Harold Kahn of the San Francisco County Superior Court has overruled Anthropic's demurrer and sent three of Reddit's five claims toward trial: breach of contract, interference with contract, and unfair competition under California law 1. The order is dated 17 September and was filed the next day 1. A demurrer decides no liability, only whether allegations state valid claims; Kahn held that three of Reddit's do 13.
The two claims trimmed as too vague, unjust enrichment and trespass to chattels, can be refiled by 16 October 1. Reddit sued in June 2025, saying Anthropic trained Claude on its users' comments without a license 1.
The defense was that nobody clicked agree
Anthropic's bet was that Reddit's User Agreement is "browsewrap," a page no one affirmatively accepts and so binds no one 1. Kahn rejected it, finding Anthropic's "conduct sufficient to infer actual knowledge of the terms of the User Agreement and to form an implied-in-fact contract with Reddit" 2. The alleged conduct is blunt: more than 100,000 scrapes after Reddit's chief executive publicly called out the practice 1.
Anthropic also framed the claims as copyright in disguise, which would have opened the fair-use door; the judge held each surviving claim needs an extra element beyond unauthorized copying 23. Even Claude's admission that it could not say whether scraped user data had been deleted counted toward the interference claim 3.
Terms of service, now with teeth
The reach runs past Reddit. Terms of service can hand any website operator a contract claim beyond copyright, which is the part every content holder with anti-scraping rules is watching 3.
The free-data era did not end with a copyright verdict. It ended with a terms-of-service page being treated like a lease.
The price list already exists
Reddit sells what Anthropic allegedly took. Google's 2024 license is worth about $60 million a year 46, OpenAI has its own 56, and together the deals run to roughly a tenth of Reddit's revenue, expiring in 2027 6. Both are up for renewal while Steve Huffman says he is "still looking for that win-win" 5, and the bull case sees hundreds of millions in new profit from renegotiation 2.
Reddit negotiates from strength: at least 61 percent revenue growth year over year in each of the past eight quarters, profitable in all of them 7. RDDT rose 4.5 percent to $157.64 on the first trading day after the order, a rare lift for a stock down 30 percent this year 2.
Reddit enters the licensing fight profitable, revenue up 131% across eight quarters
- Revenue
- Net income
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| Revenue | Net income | |
|---|---|---|
| Q3 2024 | $348.35M | $29.85M |
| Q4 2024 | $427.71M | $71.04M |
| Q1 2025 | $392.36M | $26.16M |
| Q2 2025 | $499.63M | $89.3M |
| Q3 2025 | $584.91M | $162.66M |
| Q4 2025 | $725.61M | $251.6M |
| Q1 2026 | $663.41M | $203.98M |
| Q2 2026 | $804.91M | $252.85M |
The bill lands on a $2 trillion ledger
Whatever the taking gets priced at, the bearer is about to go public. Anthropic's prospectus shows a $42 billion net loss for 2025, revenue up twelvefold to nearly $4.6 billion, and $518 billion in planned cloud and infrastructure spending, in a sale that could value it above $2 trillion and raise as much as $100 billion 89. The Reddit claim sits in that stack beside the Pentagon's temporary blacklist, blocked by a US judge in August 8.
Anthropic plans $518B of cloud and infrastructure spending on $4.6B of 2025 revenue
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- Estimate
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| USD billions | |
|---|---|
| 2025 revenue | $4.6B |
| 2025 net loss | -$42B |
| Planned infra spending (estimate) | $518B |
The template for settling is already signed
Anthropic said in June 2025 it disagreed with the claims and would "defend ourselves vigorously" 2. The likely exit is still the Google template: a retroactive payment for what Claude already learned, then a license. That is a prediction, not a holding: the lawyer Kirk Sigmon expects exactly that settlement, with the rivals already paying as the pricing evidence 2.
The next dated marker is 16 October, when Reddit refiles its trimmed claims 1. Discovery is where a decade of free data learns its price.
How this brief was made
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02Verified & cross-validated9 claims · 31 data feeds▾
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- 1Mashable, "Judge allows most of Reddit's lawsuit against Anthropic to proceed", 28 September 2026
- 2Barron's, Angela Palumbo, "Reddit scores a key win in Anthropic case. Why it's good for the stock.", 21 September 2026 (via MSN)
- 3Robinson+Cole Data Privacy + Security Insider via JD Supra, Daniel Lass, "Terms of Service Just Got Teeth: Reddit's Scraping Suit Against Anthropic Survives", 24 September 2026
- 4Yahoo Finance, Habib Ur Rehman, "Reddit (RDDT) May Walk Away From Google's (GOOGL) $60 Million-a-Year Deal as AI Search Eats Its Traffic", 30 July 2026
- 5Ars Technica, Samuel Axon, "As Reddit stock falls, CEO questions value of Google's AI Overviews", 1 August 2026
- 6Wikipedia, "Reddit", retrieved 29 September 2026
- 7Sharadar quarterly fundamentals, from Reddit's SEC filings, retrieved 29 September 2026
- 8CNBC (Reuters), "Anthropic's IPO prospectus shows sweeping AI vision, surging costs", 28 September 2026
- 9Forbes, Jim Osman, "Anthropic IPO Could Hit $2 Trillion And Put Public Investors Last", 17 September 2026
03Reviewed & edited2 human editors▾
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